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| -------Original Message------- From: waikin Date: 8/9/2011 2:47:11 PM To: Avenuecourt Cc: marini@dbkl.gov.my; Ho Chan Wah; eddie@r4c.com.my; avenuecourtsecretary@yahoo.com; avenuecourttreasurer@yahoo.com; avenuecourtblocka@yahoo.com; avenuecourtblockb@yahoo.com; avenuecourtblockc@yahoo.com; avenuecourtblockd@yahoo.com; avenuecourtbe@yahoo.com; Alex; Lingham
Subject: Re: Why is Pool Area still dimly lit at night?
Mr Chairman Kumar,
The truth is JMC is not bothered about safety and security.
Your main concern is keeping the changing rooms closed regardless what you have to do. Including lying.
Otherwise if safety and security is your priority you do not even have to wait for me to raise this issue. JMC would have done something about this long time ago instead of just excuses and complain when I ask for changing rooms.
I do not understand how Mr Ho Chan Wah of Guocoland Sdn Bhd can buy JMC's story that safety is your priority.
I know your 'sandiwara'.
The reason you reply is because I cc copy this mail to Cik Marini of COB, DBKL. Otherwise this mail will be ignored and nothing done.
I do not know what you mean by 'Please look into this matter' ? Look and no further action just like JMC complain to the whole world about safety problems but do nothing?
The changing rooms is never about safety, JMC do not want to reopen due to your personal agenda.
How Mr Ho can buy your story that the changing rooms are in a 'remote and isolated' area boggles my mind. Guocoland must be sued for designing changing rooms for swimming pool in a remote and isolated area. Based on JMC's statement I would certainly get in touch with the person(s) who got raped and molested to sue Guocoland Sdn Bhd and the relevant authorities who approved the building plan.
So, either it is true the changing rooms are remote + isolated Or Mr Chairman Kumar/JMC is a damn good liar Or Mr Ho is stupid enough to believe your story. Pick your choice.
Mr Ho of Guocoland did not defend its position that the changing rooms are not remote and isolated,
therefore it is in agreement with JMB Avenue Court and this will be included in the legal suit. This is JMC's accusation and Mr Ho of Guocoland Sdn Bhd has agreed. People going in and out on both sides using pedestrian side walk without having to stop in front of guard house. Security? Waiting for girls to get raped? Barrier for Bike put up after my e mails. For such a long time all JMC members daily go in and out and let Bikers zoom in and out freely. Security company is the problem? How is the guard going to run after each and every bike?
So what or who is the problem now?
According to your e mail below, JMC is doing such a wonderful job, concern about safety and I am the problem.
And JMC more than willingly decide to convert changing rooms in a poolside cafe and it will benefit all residents with no worries of rapists, gangsters and drunkards around. Give it to the one resident who proposed. ( what is so special about this resident?) Two years free rental. No need to open for tender.
I am sick your rubbish talk and sandiwara,
"no agenda, call for EGM, go to COB, wait for AGM" Khaw Wai Kin
PS just give me all the documents that I have asked for.
Dear Sir, The present JMB is 9 months old. We did not close the changing room facility and to re-open it, we need to investigate thoroughly why it was closed and why all Managing agents recommended it be closed and why the past JMB committee did not see it fit to be re-opened. In fact, we understand it was momentarily closed by Bedford in 2003 due to hanky panky (heresay-would appreciate if Bedford could shed some light on this). I'm sure as a proper JMB, these are the works we have to do first before blindly re-opening it. Surely to close it when house rules says otherwise, a lot of adverse things must have taken place.
So far we have confirmed a few incidences. Please refer to the reply we have given Ms Usha who has so far been the only one Mr Khaw managed to convince .to us. In addition to that, used needles have been found near the changing room vicinity in recent months. Also, we have "gangster-like" outsiders who come into AC1 and even swim naked in the pool and gamble in broad daylight. We have never -ending complaints on this from owners. How do we reply owners who question us for re-opening the room when these things are going on? Even past security dare not report to the police for fear of revenge. For the last situation, we have changed guards thrice and are currently monitoring the effectiveness of the fourth one. The real picture here is currently hardly anybody uses the pool (though MR Khaw uses it daily because he is in AC1 the whole day ) and his claim lift is wet is not true. Everybody uses the common washroom as parents feel safer. As you will appreciate, our concern is safety - looking at past and current situation.
At lease the present JMB (since Aug 2010) should be given ample time to upgrade access card so we are able to identify who enters the changing room, ensure our new guards themselves are not bringing in their "friends", accumulate enough funds for cctv for this area. We have verbally informed our COB of the situation and her answer was, we do have rights not to re-open it as we have very valid reasons and we are to act as best as we know how for the interest and safety of all residents/owners and we are not to make decisions based on 2 requests. The police after all do know how notorious Sri Sentosa is and they are quite aware of Avenue Court's situation.
Also, our checks with some legal counsels say if an exact re-occurrence happens again and this time in the changing room, if JMB is sued/called to testify, we could be questioned why we had re-opened it when we were fully aware of molest/rape and abduction/rape (not heresay) the COB is aware and has said if Mr Khaw writes, she will ask JMB to reply advising him to wait for a AGM. Because of this, we would prefer Mr Khaw to contact COB. To this day, he refuses to contact COB stating its a small matter but calls almost everyone in Guocoland where some have also advised him to write to COB.
Mr Khaw had placed a note in every letterbox of AC1 but the JMB has only received an email from Ms Usha, his friend. We have had a resident from C block who has verbally mentioned the danger of opening this room because the swimming pool is very isolated in daytime except for Mr Khaw. It is only during Sunday, there is some form of actiivity at this area. The poor response to his note makes the JMB more cautious to open the room where hanky panky was going on even during Bedford time. In fact, Bedford BE/clerk did at one stage close the room due to hanky panky, but we have no confirmation on this.
We have explained all these verbally to Mr Khaw in Oct 2010 but he is not able to grasp what we are trying to tell him. We have no agenda here. We welcome him to call for EGM or wait for the AGM which is just a few month away or write to COB to prove our sincerity. These are the JMB's thoughts which is consistent to COB. Today, it was also brought to JMB's attention that swimming pool facility was NEVER in our S&P so while we have to maintain all facilities in S&P in good working condition, the swimming pool operations will be according to management's discretion and fund availibilty. We seek your professional advise if this is true.We would appreciate this very much.
We are a bit confused, COB says we are to adhere to their instructions or any vote outcome in EGM if there is one but now we have an instruction from Guocoland. Pls advise.
If Guocoland requires us to re-open it, we would highly appreciate an official letterhead stating that Guocoland is fully aware of past crimes and ongoing used needles found in pool vicinity, etc etc and an instruction and direction to JMB to re-open it. We also need a letter to release us of any responsibilty that occur in the changing room due to it's re-opening (limited to acts of crime only). We will then file this with the COB and relevant authorities and after receving their acknowledgement, we be glady re-open it.
Today, we have received news that a unit had also been used to produce false passport and the owner had made a police report to protect himself in case of any drug activity. However, this was only verbally told to a committee member through the phone. We have yet to check its authenticity.
Sir, we are not against it's re-opening. But there is a security situation in AC1 that needs to be addressed first (we are working on it) before we feel it can be done. There have been crimes near the area on a child and young lady. We seek your humantarian understanding to at least have the the place secured first. We would appreciate if you reply to agree with us after reading all the above as we are sure by now, MR Khaw is preparing copies of your email to be put into every letterbox. While he might not get any responds, the JMB still looks bad to many neutral residents as he has painted a very distorted picture of us by implying we closed it recently as JMB doesn't use it etc etc.
Finally, we will be glad to meet you to explain the situation and the works we are doing to make AC1 more secure and eventually perhaps open the changing room (if we get an instruction from COB., though at the moment, she recommend wait for the AGM). Please advise and we will call your secretary to fix an appointment with you.
On an entirely different note, we also have a few situation with Mr. Khaw; 1. FYI, the JMB committee member each has a responsiblity to check on cleanliness, security, liftts etc. However, Mr Khaw wishes to dictate what kind of work we should do. He has verbally informed us we should spend 3-4 of our personal time to check accounts daily and prohibited any work that he feels unnecessary like checking the cleanliness of AC1. He has made an official complaint to me to remind the member in charge of cleaning that the member is not a"cleaning supervisor" This is very burdensome as ALL owners are very happy the team is working this way. Is it possible for you to advise Mr Khaw to allow us to work as his harping on us is very tiring. 2. Also, does MR Khaw have the right to force the sweeper to dispose his astro dish for him ? Because it was so heavy, the sweeper asked the garbageman to assist her. However, it was a big issue for him and he demanded and forced her to do it herself, no help allowed or he'd "lapur her". Pls advise us as he now throws newspaper messily at his corridor unit and makes her clear them. When she says please don't, he shout "Diam. nanti saya lapur awak". 3. Could you also advise if Mr Khaw is allowed to take invoices etc out of the managing agent's office? He knows he may view whatever he needs at the maint/HQ and request in writing for a copy of invoice etc but he doesn't. Instead he discreetly demands such things from the new BE who fortunately did not release original documents or we would be in a lot of trouble with other owners. Though we have many situations with Mr Khaw, the four are the most recent ones. We thank you in advance for any of your advise on these. as we did not know we could seek clarification and decisions from Guacoland instead of going to the COB - until we saw you replied Mr Khaw.
Thank you. Krishnakumar Chairman
-------Original Message------- From: JMB Chairman Date: 08/08/11 23:15:49 To: waikin Cc: marini@dbkl.gov.my; Ho Chan Wah; eddie@r4c.com.my; avenuecourtsecretary@yahoo.com; avenuecourttreasurer@yahoo.com; avenuecourtblocka@yahoo.com; avenuecourtblockb@yahoo.com; avenuecourtblockc@yahoo.com; avenuecourtblockd@yahoo.com; Alex; avenuecourtbe@yahoo.com; Lingham
Subject: Re: Why is Pool Area still dimly lit at night? Hi Eddie Please look into this matter. Thx On Aug 6, 2011, at 1:28 PM, "waikin" <shsm108@streamyx.com> wrote:
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